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 Post subject: x199?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:03 pm 
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This was my first new purchase. It was espoused as better than the telecaster. pics to come. the other was a later purchase, same model, except green. It's my standard for all playing.

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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:57 am 
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The X199 is a very nice guitar. It bears little resemblance to a telecaster. The tele would typically be 2 single coils pickups with a 3 way switch. The X199 is more like a Strat in shape abd in the 3 pickups - but that's where the resemblance ends. The Strat is almost always 3 single coils with a 5 way switch. The X199 has 2 humbuckers and a single coil with tons of switching options. For its time it was really a unique guitar. I think it is still a VERY versatile guitar and, of course, being an Electra, really well made. Unfortunately for sellers, the X199 doesn't command a great deal of money. They sure are nice though.


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:53 am 
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The X199 was the top-of-the-line in the Phoenix line with a set neck; much like the Westone Spectrum FX, which also had a single locking, floating vibrato. Lovely, under-rated guitars that are starting to fetch reasonable money.

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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Neither look like X199's because of the bridges - I'd bet money they are X189's.


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Set neck or bolt neck?? And you're right; the X199 should have a Bendmaster bridge like this according to the catalogue, eh!

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... this is the body and bridge of my Westone Spectrum GT; it's a non locking trem.

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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:44 pm 
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I guess i don't know the difference between a set neck and bolt neck.

Care to explain?

They are both Phoenix, so that has to set a time period.


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:47 pm 
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I see these guitars somewhat frequently on Ebay. Most, if not all, are missing the tremolo/whammy bar.

Any thoughts as to why these bars are missing and, in my opinion, almost irreplaecable?


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:14 am 
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Well, you've got to unscrew them to put the guitar in it's case..... and not everyone uses a wang bar anyway!! They're not irreplaceable at all; these are pretty close...

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_ta ... o_Arm.html

...and there was a bloke in the UK making these actual bars a year or so ago.

"Bolt neck" is actually a misnomer as they are actually 4 big screws which hold the neck onto the body, usually with the aid of a steel plate; set neck means the neck is glued into the neck recess in the body usually with some sort of tenon arrangement.

The Phoenix were around for a fair while and generally the only way of telling them apart is the neck set up, pick-up arrangement, and bridge - not too bad on Electras as they were nearly all Tekglides; the Westone Spectrums had the same deal re. pick-ups and necks but with 3 or 4 bridge options but then the Westones also have the model nomenclature on the headstock, like this....

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I've used a couple of these and they work just fine.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/6mm-Floyd-R ... _p_54.html


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:15 am 
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The X199 I recently bought is a monster of a player. I may be kidding myself, but it just seems to have better tone than the similar bolt-necks I have.


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 Post subject: Re: x199?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:58 pm 
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JackBaruth wrote:
The X199 I recently bought is a monster of a player. I may be kidding myself, but it just seems to have better tone than the similar bolt-necks I have.


I tend to favor the "kidding oneself" school of thought... I've tried my Spectrum GT and a Spectrum FX back to back through the same rig at stage volume and for the life of me - and the other guys who were there - I couldn't really tell the difference in tone or sustain!! But then again, my ears have taken a battering over the years and I may be completely wrong!! :toopid:

All Spectrums/Phoenixes are monster players, Jack!! :love:

I will say that my X195 sounds completely unlike any guitar I've owned or played.... :D

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